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The death that got to me the most was Tony Almeida. I actually cried, I thought it was so sad that he was defending his wife's memory and then, eventually, was too good to actually kill Henderson... and then Henderson kills him. And then Jack cried, which gets me going anytime...
You can imagine my reaction at the latest Day 7 news, then.  |
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Sep 21, 2007 9:26 pm |
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They never clearly proved Tony died. Along with a lot of other things in Season 5. |
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Sep 22, 2007 5:29 am |
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| Almeida wrote: | | They never clearly proved Tony died. Along with a lot of other things in Season 5. |
Where I come from, putting a white sheet over somebody is pretty much confirmation of death...
...but I'll try and keep open-minded about Day 7. |
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Sep 22, 2007 7:53 am |
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| PreviouslyOn24 wrote: | | Almeida wrote: | | They never clearly proved Tony died. Along with a lot of other things in Season 5. |
Where I come from, putting a white sheet over somebody is pretty much confirmation of death...
...but I'll try and keep open-minded about Day 7. |
lol yep me to, along with that, Jack crying over him kinda confirmed it for me lol |
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Sep 22, 2007 8:15 am |
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| Terri wrote: | | PreviouslyOn24 wrote: | | Almeida wrote: | | They never clearly proved Tony died. Along with a lot of other things in Season 5. |
Where I come from, putting a white sheet over somebody is pretty much confirmation of death...
...but I'll try and keep open-minded about Day 7. |
lol yep me to, along with that, Jack crying over him kinda confirmed it for me lol |
Crying and hugging while rocking back and forth, with Tony's amazing last words... "I couldn't do it, Jack... Jack... she's gone, Jack..."
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Sep 22, 2007 6:54 pm |
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I sleep with a sheet over my head. |
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Sep 23, 2007 6:43 am |
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| Almeida wrote: | | I sleep with a sheet over my head. |
Not after being injected with deadly poison, though... am I right?
C'mon, you've gotta admit, the original intention was for Tony to die. Whatever they do with it now is their business, but it was written that Tony died. Just now because he didn't get a silent clock (because the previous episode had a silent clock) the writers are pulling him back.
Even Jack said in Episode 23 that Henderson was "responsible for the death... of Tony Almeida". |
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Sep 23, 2007 9:50 am |
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I agree that he was supposed to die, but the writers left him open to come back when he didn't get the silent clock. |
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Sep 23, 2007 12:22 pm |
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| DSi wrote: | | I agree that he was supposed to die, but the writers left him open to come back when he didn't get the silent clock. |
Meh: a clock's just a clock.
I'm going to keep an open mind, I'll watch Day 7 and end up loving it, and eventually I'll forget the whole thing... but it's a big ask of the producers and has been handled (so far) badly. |
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Jack was too busy to check back with CTU to see what was happening everywhere. Besides there was so much in Season 5 that didn't make sense & was totally impossible.
The clock has nothing to do with it. Yes the producers messed up big time - but who's to say to they didn't think in the back of their minds they wanted it that way - it certainly has been the talk since 5.13. They clearly proved it.
Nor did they listen to Carlos when he reccomended Jack being the one to kill him. I've never given up the belief Almeida was still alive - there's a few of us who have said that.
However, we all have to wait & see - after all this is 24 - I don't like to know what may or may not happen. I don't even like to know who the new characters are. |
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Sep 23, 2007 2:14 pm |
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Forgot to mention - who said it was deadly poison? I don't believe everything the producers tell me - I have my own mind. |
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Sep 23, 2007 6:21 pm |
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| Almeida wrote: | | Forgot to mention - who said it was deadly poison? I don't believe everything the producers tell me - I have my own mind. |
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a deadly poison, I think it was the poison that Jack was using to torture Henderson, which did not kill Henderson after several doses. |
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Sep 23, 2007 8:05 pm |
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see too many things that didn't make sense or add up.
When Jack gets on Marine One - that was way over the top.
and what happened to Wayne Palmer? |
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Sep 23, 2007 9:10 pm |
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| Almeida wrote: | | and what happened to Wayne Palmer? |
Wayne collapsed in the middle of a speech, and he was carted away by the doctors. Maybe he will show up in season 7? |
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Okay, so maybe the poison wasn't "deadly", but a big needle shoved through your chest and into your heart can't be good for you, can it? The needle alone would have seriously injured him... add the poison, again, deadly or not, to his punctured heart and you've got death. No two ways around it.
I'm sorry, but Tony did die.
Now, whether he survived death or not is another matter. Remember, Jack's been dead twice: once in Day 2, which left him with a serious heart condition; second time in Day 4, using an experimental drug to stop his heart. Both times he recovered or survived. Maybe the same happened with Tony off-screen... maybe. |
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| DSi wrote: | | Almeida wrote: | | and what happened to Wayne Palmer? |
Wayne collapsed in the middle of a speech, and he was carted away by the doctors. Maybe he will show up in season 7? |
I was referring to what happened to Wayne during Season 5? He suddenly disappeared. |
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| PreviouslyOn24 wrote: | Okay, so maybe the poison wasn't "deadly", but a big needle shoved through your chest and into your heart can't be good for you, can it? The needle alone would have seriously injured him... add the poison, again, deadly or not, to his punctured heart and you've got death. No two ways around it.
I'm sorry, but Tony did die.
Now, whether he survived death or not is another matter. Remember, Jack's been dead twice: once in Day 2, which left him with a serious heart condition; second time in Day 4, using an experimental drug to stop his heart. Both times he recovered or survived. Maybe the same happened with Tony off-screen... maybe. |
I've watched this scene several times - it never showed clearly where it went in his chest. And if you haven't noticed Tony Almeida in a tee - he is in great physical shape. |
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| Almeida wrote: | | PreviouslyOn24 wrote: | Okay, so maybe the poison wasn't "deadly", but a big needle shoved through your chest and into your heart can't be good for you, can it? The needle alone would have seriously injured him... add the poison, again, deadly or not, to his punctured heart and you've got death. No two ways around it.
I'm sorry, but Tony did die.
Now, whether he survived death or not is another matter. Remember, Jack's been dead twice: once in Day 2, which left him with a serious heart condition; second time in Day 4, using an experimental drug to stop his heart. Both times he recovered or survived. Maybe the same happened with Tony off-screen... maybe. |
I've watched this scene several times - it never showed clearly where it went in his chest. And if you haven't noticed Tony Almeida in a tee - he is in great physical shape. |
He has got a bit of a belly in Day 4...! |
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Tony was shot in the neck in season 3, and was back working 100% within hours. I'm sure a fatal drug wouldn't stop him  |
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Sep 24, 2007 6:46 pm |
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What's this 'silent clock' everyone is talking about?
Maybe Jack thought he was dead but the syringe wasn't deadly, it just made it look like he was dead and later on he came back and CTU decided to put him in witness protection or something since people tried to kill him. |
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The silent clock is an honor given to a 24 cast member when he/she dies. It is one of the highest honors a 24 character can get.
What happens is when someone dies, and the commercial or end of the episode comes, instead of the click ticking loudly like it usually does, it remains silent, for a more dramatic effect. Characters that have gotten the silent clock are Teri Bauer, George Mason, David Palmer, Ryan Chapelle, Edgar Stiles, Jack Bauer.
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| DSi wrote: | Tony was shot in the neck in season 3, and was back working 100% within hours. I'm sure a fatal drug wouldn't stop him  |
Nothing will stop that man! |
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| DSi wrote: | The silent clock is an honor given to a 24 cast member when he/she dies. It is one of the highest honors a 24 character can get.
What happens is when someone dies, and the commercial or end of the episode comes, instead of the click ticking loudly like it usually does, it remains silent, for a more dramatic effect. Characters that have gotten the silent clock are Teri Bauer, George Mason, David Palmer, Ryan Chapelle, Edgar Stiles, Jack Bauer.
Silent clock - Wiki 24: http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_clock |
Ahh, that's what i thought it was.
I like the silent clock, it adds that little extra to the scene. |
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Sep 26, 2007 10:39 pm |
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I am just re-watching this one now. Have to say David Palmer getting killed in the first episode was a bit of a shock...and he will be a character sorely missed by me. |
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Sep 27, 2007 7:55 pm |
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He was always one of my favorite characters, because he was one of the only people to trust Jack no matter what everyone else thought. That's why I put him in the middle on the new banner^^  |
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